Worst 2v2 Map

[meg(an)]

What's the worst 2v2 map?

[meg(an)]

i vote rat race. in my opinion, rat race is too big for 2's. i lovelovelove it for 4's, but i refuse to play it for 2's.

[[[[Shade]]]]

Damn, that's a tough list, I think all of those listed are GREAT 2 v 2 maps..... my personal vote (for a map actually somewhat played) is for longest.

[Missingno]

That list is too hard to pick a bad map from, even for 2v2s. I definitely feel you on the Rat Race thing Meg, it doesn't flow very well for 2s, seems sort of big at times, but still very much playable. Honestly, I don't think it's the worst, but my group of lan buddies and I tend to play Derelict the least, probably because of the whole rockets spawn thing, and all control sitting up top with the powerups, which, now that I think about it, last time I was at home, I got arsenic running and put cloak bottom mid 1 minute, OS didn't move, health pack in cloak's spot, and changed rockets to 2 minutes just to see how it would play. Of course it played well, cause it was H1, but, it felt entirely different and I'm not sure if I liked it. I definitely didn't hate it, just weird changing something so familiar. I'm not even gonna vote. I love it all.

[Nastadon]

Derelict due to the fact it is so unbalanced.

[danoSNakE==[:]~]

I've always hated derelict, I've always loved Hang Em High.

[BATES]

Derelict/Wizard
Unbalanced for sure.

but regardless of the fact most h1 maps are playable for 2's.

[meg(an)]

Derelict/Wizard
Unbalanced for sure.

but regardless of the fact most h1 maps are playable for 2's.

could you add wiz and bc to the list? i don't know how to edit my cra

bc sucks for 2's. i hate it. so much. i like it for 4's.
wiz sucks for 2's. it's all about gettin the powerups and spawnkilling.
but i hate rr the most i think.

i had wiz and bc and rr at a 2v2 tourney i held 2ish years ago, but only cause back then they were kinda cool + the people who ran it didnt want me use 4 maps + people told me to put them in there.

[Domino]

HeH

imo host advantage and way too open. haven't been a fan of it.

derelict is really fun though

[Jeenyus]

Rand Em High

Seriously, when the game gives you good randoms you win. When you spawn red shotty all game while other team randoms behind you or in good spots, you lose. Bah!

[Missingno]

Rand Em High

Seriously, when the game gives you good randoms you win. When you spawn red shotty all game while other team randoms behind you or in good spots, you lose. Bah!

Ditto that.

I'm always afraid to say I don't like Hang 'Em because of the crazy amount of love HEH gets.

On that topic, once in HEH, it was 48-42, my team was winning, we both died. One of us spawned red shotties, so the other did, we both die almost immediately. Bottom line, one of us, either my teammate or I, got red shotty spawn every time we respawned, causing our teammate to spawn there, until they had 50-48, we lost, ONLY because of classy Hang'em spawns. I know it could have happened any where...but...I blame it on HEH.

[meg(an)]

Ditto that.

I'm always afraid to say I don't like Hang 'Em because of the crazy amount of love HEH gets.

On that topic, once in HEH, it was 48-42, my team was winning, we both died. One of us spawned red shotties, so the other did, we both die almost immediately. Bottom line, one of us, either my teammate or I, got red shotty spawn every time we respawned, causing our teammate to spawn there, until they had 50-48, we lost, ONLY because of classy Hang'em spawns. I know it could have happened any where...but...I blame it on HEH.

red spawns are retarded
after playing bc at sics lan, i don't mind playing bc too much. i might have to play it every 9th game on xbc.

[CYRiX]

Well, since I'm shit at 2v2 damnation, I'll have to go with damnation

[NextToGodly]

wizarddd lol idk just cant stand it for 2s like it for 4s but no dice on everything else

[Planet-X]

hang em high is host advantage? ridiculous statement, prisoner and chill out are maps with a heavy host favor, but in reality, all maps are host maps. while i love hang em and it is a wonderful map, randoms to red can make you seem like a worse team than you really are. also the beginning spawn can really fuck you over. if one guy spawns top blue and other at camo and you spawn at red pillars, you get destroyed.

wizard is balanced, even for 2s, but once a team establishes any sort of control its just a beat down. the map is only good for 4v4 objectives and 1v1s.

derelict is absolutely garbage. the geometry is great, its a fantastic FFA map, but combine 30 second rocket spawn, os and camo on top, and the only way up top is via nade up or portal and you have one extremely unbalanced map. in my opinion map would be better if rockets were placed on bottom along with camo in middle. however the new version of the map does look promising. for now though, this is the worst 2v2 map thats actually played. to argue it is to embrace a horribly balanceed map.

battle creek is a fantastic map, probably my favorite for 2s. most people that don't like it simply do not know how to play it. i said most though, there are some who are good at it that just genuinely don't like it. it is a balanced map, and very difficult to play. the camo is probably the most dangerously placed one in the entire game. there are alot of ways to win this map, and its very versatile. learn the nade tricks, learn how to play the map and surely you will begin to enjoy it.

out of the widely accepted and balanced maps, i must say i hate chill out. i think pink and the small-ish room design support lots of chaotic games on the map. sometimes games can flow wonderfully and it be good. but often the map can be extremely random, i do think xbc (2v2ing on diff screens) contributes to this. on chill out i've found for me personally, that most of the games i dominate on, i usually camp pink with rockets.

[Jeenyus]

I'm just happy I'm not alone in disliking HeH for the crappy spawns you can end up getting literally all game long, or never depending on luck.

[ProphLEET]

Wiz is definitely the worst because of it's enormous host advantage, then longest then derelict - they are all great maps but too much host advantage. Can't wait to play derelict with camo on bottom and rocks on 2 min spawns.

Rat Race is a great 2v2 map - it is made way smaller with the portals, and flanking is very easily done as long as people don't camp caves.

Battle Creek is extremely balanced and has very little host advantage. Anyone that says they don't like BC just isn't good at it. If you know how to control rocks and camo on BC you can dominate on or off host.

Chilly Pris and HH are all very good maps but HH can be kinda gay. I don't really like Dammy because of how easy it is to lock down red base but at the same time if you know how to nade camo from several locations it makes it more balanced.

So I would rank them like this:

Chilly
Pris
Battle Creek
HH
Dammy
RR
Derelict
Longest
Wiz

[HalasterBlack]

I think Damnation is not nearly as good as most people think. People tend forget that the map is all chokepoints. While it isnt that bad on 2s as it is on 4s, its still a matter of hold top, and the only reason players leave is to get rockets.

BC and RR are constantly undervalued as well. Managing charges and powerups on RR is actually fairly difficult, and your mid range pistol skills dominate the match.

BC is one of the best maps in the game. Cloak is extremely difficult to control but radically changes the game in your favor. Holding mid is hard but key. The counter strategies are some of the most complex, including nading weapons, the cloak, doubling powerups and such. I really dont understand why players don't respect BC its one of my favorites.

[Waffen SS]

I think Damnation is not nearly as good as most people think. People tend forget that the map is all chokepoints. While it isnt that bad on 2s as it is on 4s, its still a matter of hold top, and the only reason players leave is to get rockets.

the only reason to leave is rockets?? seems like a pretty important reason to leave..
I don't really like Dammy because of how easy it is to lock down red base but at the same time if you know how to nade camo from several locations it makes it more balanced.
Proph speaks the truth.. the better my buddies and i have got at getting that camo down, the more the game has moved away from camping the top staring at the port.

[_RNX_]

HH and Wizard by far the worst

[FoileR]

dere is sick. i understand the unbalanced aspect, but it could be 30 - 5 and the team with 5 could kill one guy at top, get a power up and turn the game around to win 50-35. though unbalanced, it's an amazing map thats full of clutch-play-possibilities. i'm a fan.

[HalasterBlack]

the only reason to leave is rockets?? seems like a pretty important reason to leave..

Proph speaks the truth.. the better my buddies and i have got at getting that camo down, the more the game has moved away from camping the top staring at the port.


I understand that you can nade camo down, I personally have 3 locations that Im used to nading it down from. But you can still get vantage points on where it falls from up top. As long as the enemy team is well aware you're still at a disadvantage.

Sure Rockets are important, but imo if you have cloak, and two players on top with snipers, you can take out a rocket player easily. I've played whole games on Dammy (though against bad players) where Ive never had to get rockets.

I just dont like the fact the map has a dominant side with chokepoints. I realize it gets better with more competitive play. Ive experienced that. I still would rather play BC though.

[Pope Pistol]

okay so I love hang em high... when i can communicate with my partner. On a lan i think HH is frkn awesome, but on xbc, with 4 singles, i think it frkn sucks..
HH involves so much communication. I know every map does, but in my opinion HH and Dammy are the worst maps to play if you can't communicate..
Derelict is fun, but one false move and your screwed. For example if one team spawns bottom and the other team spawns top, expect a 6 - 0 lead lol. and it will be very hard to win if they are controlling the top well...
I love chilly. that involves alot of communication too but its not as bad. if the other team gets the rockets, take the camo..
than its just a rocket man whos not camo'd .. thats not to hard to kill.
Priz is the same thing

i love all maps if you can communicate with your team mate, but if you can't i love to play priz, and chilly.

[Nappy_D]

holy shit so your saying there are more than 5 maps???

Dammy ftw btw !!!!!!!! : )

[That_Guy]

I personally hate hang em high, but that's probably because when we LAN, we hardly ever play it. Derelict may be a bit unbalanced, but the tide can easily turn with a few well placed grenades.

[c-low18]

holy shit so your saying there are more than 5 maps???

Dammy ftw btw !!!!!!!! : )

you would like dammy jake! geyhist map ever! lol

HeH is my favor1te....win or lose I love it. dammy bl0w cats. RR is by far the worst....wizard and derelict are st8 teamwork maps.........get control and hold it!!!!

[Missingno]

I'm going to have to disagree on Wizard 2v2 being a teamwork map. I lanned a team one night and my team beat them in every single map except Wizard their host, by a reasonable margin, both on/off host. What I'm trying to say is, their teamwork was absolute garbage, but their sitting-on-powerups-while-we-spawn-work was great.

Wizard is more like a, first team to get 2 kills wins unless you're retarded map. I think it should be left to 1v1, but I'd never knock anyone for loving a map! Because I love Damnation!

[IV Snipeside VI]

They all are great maps. I love them all. They suit 2 v 2's.

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[Hasuku H1]

Longest. nuff said.
I chose hang em' high by accident xP.
To be honest tho i love all the maps.

[jennifer]

Rat Race................